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Elections Night - Tim Ngwena re-elected president

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122 Comments

Derwent Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

is pre drinking and will be over shortly. YES. PLEASE.

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Amy Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

When is it kicking off? Wasn't this supposed to have started at 8? I've been sitting here for 45 minutes waiting...

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Thoulalallalalala Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Hi guys, we're liveblogging from the JCR area if you want company :)

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badger hunter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Any reaction to Vision's suggestion and Jason Rose's admission that he won't get Academic Affairs? I thought he would be in with a good shout, being so ubiquitous.

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Visionary Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

URY has Rose at 11% behind Humphreys I think...

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Vanbrugh bar Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Wooop another live
blog - one of the single best things about the entire elections this year!

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Camilla Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Charlotte Hogarth-Jones: Would you say the ents playing Gaga was not cheeky but lazy? Or both?

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~J Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Thanks badger hunter - I'm currently running an event so won't make it to the election night, probably... but I did say in my blog the other day that he'd win. I reckon by about 450 votes after all second preferences etc... I don't know who will be second but at the moment my estimate would be me (but only because of exit poll) - we'll see though!

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~J Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Last minute nerves? As I said I looked days ago and it's a mathematical estimation :P

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~J Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

First results are at 9:50pm so I'm going to vanish for just over half an hour whilst I go and finish fixing my event's timings (we're running 5-6 minutes late and need to speed up the band transition during the interval) :P Byes for now!

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Liam Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

"I am alone with the wine"

Laura Connor I hope we can expect the normal brace of comments we have come to associate with this capricious and dangerous predicament

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Derwent Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Actually, it sounds dead there. Worth coming along yet Team Nouse, or should we keep pre drinking for now?

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roflcopter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Vision are here???

I thought they only attended campus events when they had edition out.....

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Real Human Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

"First results are at 9:50pm so I'm going to vanish for just over half an hour whilst I go and finish fixing my event's timings (we're running 5-6 minutes late and need to speed up the band transition during the interval) :P Byes for now!"

Thanks for that Jason...

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Oliver Lester Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Just having a fish finger sandwich and will be over soon.

Peace, love, hair grease.

xx

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Why did Nouse say that this was going to start at 8?! When is it going to start???

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badger hunter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

what's happening in LN/028 and what's happening in the Courtyard?

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rawr Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

it would help if you guys spelt 'lose' properly since it's prolly gonna be one of the key words for the night! just a heads up.

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Jacques Elderberry-Carcassonne Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Truth is a contingency; it paraphrases the mere event qua meaningful reality of the signifying Other. As apropos the Event of elections, it is all bullshit; nobody wins, nobody deserves it, VOTE BEN HUMPHRYS FOR ACAMEMIC L)OLZ!!!!!!!!1111111111111

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Chinsters Pastycyk Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

It's spelt lose, not loose you illiterate morons

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Spelling-B Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

You've spelt 'lose' wrong twice already. Sort it out, you'll probably be using it a lot tonight.

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Agreed rawr.

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Doorsafe Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

We let Rhianna in without a student card because she performed her new single to us, complete with dance routine:

Come on rude boy, boy, can you get it up?
Come on rude boy,boy, is you big enough?

etc.

*

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Boom boom pow Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

What time will the president be announced at?

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

stephen and patrick?

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Trying to work, but failing Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I guess the drinks are flowing a bit more now... this blog is getting quite amusing. Thank you!

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88 Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

We love George Lowther!

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Eagle Eyes Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

There I was, in Waterstones on Friday afternoon (leafing through a book on Emmeline Pankhurst), and in walks campus villain Peter Saul. He had ordered a book but Waterstones didn't have it for him, surprisingly he was very pleasant to the woman serving him. Not all bad then. Excited for Women's Officer, come on the REAL girls!

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U what ? Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Womens wasn't close won it by miles !!!

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Question for Freckelton Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Are you worried about loosing? To Ron ? Who do you think will win?

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QUESTION TO FRECKLETON Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

does he think he'll win?

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88 Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

George Lowther is good for me.

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88 Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

George Lowther thinks that he's the Queen and we're the sorry people.

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Anon60 Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Jason's at the CU gig thing in Central Hall I believe

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Johnny Boy Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Genuine comment after that last photo: 'Who's that fat guy wearing the fox in the foreground?'

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badger hunter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

The YSTV feed is shocking! I mean I know it's not the BBC but come on, at least have more than three seconds of uninterrupted coverage.

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

how embarrassing

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

but on a more positive note, you seem nice. i thought you were a bit up yourself when i thought you were someone else. now i'm willing to give you a chance

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CJ Cregg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Bring back YSTV coverage - how could it go dead as we enter Sabb positions?


OH WAIT thank god

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Oliver Lester Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Whoever was in that big bird costume is well out of order. Not only did they not high five me, but they then attempted to dry hump my leg.

I'm so upset I'm sending in a complaint as soon as YUSU opens.

Not impressed.

Oliver Lester

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Have you been listening to solid Gaga since the start?

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

you can't win york come dancing AND welfare officer in the same year. WM got greedy

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

flabBOgasted?

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Huh...? Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Laura Bo decided to run at the last minute. She stole her 'welfare care bear' campaign from a girl who ran for Vanbrugh Welfare.
*sentence removed
She'll make a great welfare officer...
Peter was far more deserving. Such a shame.

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

nonplussed is one word...

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i don't get this Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

i cannot believe peter didn't win. hats off to laura, but peter deserved it so much more.

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badger hunter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Welfare first sabb of the night? What is Academic? A cheese and ham toastie?

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

i do not like adam shergold.

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

laura and charlotte, are you going to be on ystv soon? it would be nice to see your lovely faces :)

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

god ystv is painful. i feel bad for fionna and richard. not so much for richard tbh he's quite annoying

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A foreigner Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I understand how much Peter Wardley may've done in student politics, but Laura Bo has gone to show by actively campaigning and being an honest, approachable officer in Vanbrugh just how much background does not matter in elections. She has shown passion, and I just hope we can all congratulate on what will bring to YUSU, being from an international background and making a mark in student politics.

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Henry Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

A bad photo of Leigh on a live blog....how the tables have turned.

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Sports President of New York Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

What? No one told me I was being replaced!

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Matt Thomas Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Sam is the man!!! Good news for York Sport.

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

oh god is there no escape from henry james foy? he's EVERYWHERE

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Martin Mulligan Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Even I am in complete disbelief over Laura's win.
However, from being vice-chair with her last year, I know how dedicated and hard working she is. For all those who doubt her capabilities as Welfare Officer next year, she will definitely prove you wrong.
Laura has proved that campaigning with diligence reaps its rewards. The skills she has shown in campaigning will serve her well in her year in office.
Long live Bo the welfare bear!

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Scarlett thinks he's won an Oscar

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Fingers crossed for Powell. He deserves it.

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

loosing? again? woe is me..

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

charlotte/laura i don't understand how this vote redistribution thing works?? why don't they just say "you have the most votes, therefore you win"?

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Who is the boy on YSTV in the corridoor with the red tie? He is awful and extremely annoying.

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badger hunter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Agreed L.Brown - see Henry James Foy for proof.

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

agreed anon about richard (the guy in the corridor with red tie). very annoying.
disagree with L.Brown and badger hunter. Foy and Charlotte are in different leagues. Charlotte is lovely, Foy is the opposite of lovely (what would that be?).
although I would really like Charlotte to explain the redistribution of votes... i really don't understand it...

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

do they put vaseline on the lenses of ystv or something? scarlett looked positively sexy in his interview (he normally resembles a gargoyle) and even foy looks vaguely human

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Charles Bushby Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Rory Shanks - ex sabb.... current loser (IMO)

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Ieuan Ferrer Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I was surprised to see that Laura Bo won. Her hustings performance was... painful. That doesn't mean she won't be a great Welfare Officer of course.

Dan did well to win the D+S one. Etheridge's campaign was pretty good, but then he has got all the charisma of a rather shabby rat.

Excited for the result of the presidential election. :)

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STYC Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Charlotte it's your favourite styc here I'm edinburgh and unable
to know the results. Can you text me who wins the YUSU presidents? Cheers. Xxxx

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badger hunter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ohhhh we're all F'd.

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Blimey. It's a dictatorship

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badger hunter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

What possible good can come from this? Hansen had clearer policies, for crying out loud. We can all look forward to implementation of a more effective communication strategy and an F-load of strategicly-planned consultation.

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Will we ever get rid of Tim Ngwena?!?!

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badger hunter Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Furthermore, 'everyone seems sad Oli didn't win'? Nouse, you really are doing a sterling job proving yourselves to be clique-free.

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Yohan Van Mildert Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ok so Tim has another year.

Does this mean us lesser-connecteds are going to see him this year?

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Probity Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Can nouse send Hannah Elis-Peterson back to the office please? She is needed for features.

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Stelhan Ariyadasa-Saez Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

*blinks*
And there I was, holding out for Hansen not coming last.

Disappointing.

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K Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I want YUSU to know that you do an awful job, iv not seen a correct decision since ive been at York. Not only this, but the Welfare fiasco is diabolical. Nouse and the other candidates have all had a dig at MacIlwraith, even though the bloke had nothing to do with it, simply the opinion that none of YUSU matter, which btw you don't. I havnt seen any difference since ive been here. I'm a sportsman, and the most recent election presented york sport with an unfit candidate (literally) that plays a minority sport.All i can see is another year of huge frustration in the student population.

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sorry but... Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

...the amount of shitty grammar and spelling in this blog is a joke! Let's petition Chris Young to force potential Nouse editors to take a spelling test before running for the position...

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Andrew McIlwraith Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Firstly, YUSU removed me from the vote. This meant that anyone who voted for me lost a vote. Great work YUSU, you continue proving you are more dictatorship that democracy, this whole situation is hilarious. Not only that, but bad luck to anyone in York Sport next year!

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Dan Walker Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

It was an accident! I must of been dancing to Journey!

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Oh dear Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Tim is going to be a train wreck of a president (again) everyone knows he is do-nothing facade.

No wonder he was so confident...

Bets on bretts revealing to him the results?

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Elections Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

"Firstly, YUSU removed me from the vote. This meant that anyone who voted for me lost a vote."

No it doesn't. If you can't be bothered to learn how STV works, and still be a candidate, then you deserve to be disqualified. You are the weakest link, GOODBYE!

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Well that went well Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Pres: Levene
D&S: Daniels
Welfare: Medley
SA: Hesselwood
Academic: Rose
Sport: Sam A

I backed the WRONG TEAM.

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KK Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Fair play to anyone who got themselves a job, and a tasty little nouse feed. But more to the point, im pretty sure that bloke 2 above me isn't Mac!

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anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Think i heard Bretts on YSTV say that Yorkie has a top5 in the country participation in these elections each year, which is pretty special for a uni of our size

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anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ngwena for a Third Term!!!????

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Disbelief Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

"Laura has proved that campaigning with diligence reaps its rewards".... Martin Mulligan never constructed a sentence like that. I spy the input of Toni Shaw/LO'B!
X

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matt bailey fan Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

this is such a joke.... how can a president who literally has done nothing all year and most students don't even know who he is win again. Tim will be rubbish this year i feel sorry for anyone stuck in york next year.

* Did the nouse editor think she was backing the winning horse? just shows how biased nouse is.... im glad ollie did not win shows henry james foy that he has no power on campus.

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Voice of the silent majority Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

'everyone seems sad Oli didn't win' Except the overwhelming majority of people at this uni who are not his mindless banner waving supporters. STV ballots are made of win, Cliques are made of fail. SO SO relieved by the result.

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The REAL Probity Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Somebody in that Nouse office stole my identity!?!?

It definitely was not me calling Hannah Elis-Peterson back to the office.

I'm not happy! - I blame you Jenkins.

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DH Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Sam ahrsfani should not have been york sport president. that was a huge mistake. and YUSU pulled McIlwraith out of welfare. There were a lot of people behind Andy. A lot. And lewis brets.........i thought you knew better.

Huge mistake 1 - Democracy 0

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Max Rouffier Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

calm down bitches let's face it, it doesn't make any difference does it

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matt bailey fan Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

it really does matter, cause now we are stuck with a president who has shown over the past year that his is not willing to stand up to his perceived employers in hes hall. Tim over the last year has been hes hall bitches, he has shown this with his lack of enthusiasm in the pottering campaigns. What with more cuts coming and rent increasing we need a president who is willing to stand up and fight for us not one who will happily role over for a belly rub from jane grenville and the like. We need a president who is going to hold hes hall to account after all its them who should be working for us not us working for them.

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to be fair Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Anyone that doubts Tim Ngwena's record should go on his webpage that outlines all his detailed pledges from last year and how he fulfilled them. People must remember that the President can't single handedly dictate university policy and does not hold significantly more power or influence than the other sabbs elected.

If you haven't 'seen' him then you can book an appointment to see him whenever you like!!

Sour grapes are not constructive or fair so don't slate Tim for the sake of it.

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Dan Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Andy Mac maybe right, if he was removed in a way that was akin to disqualification, under STV his second and third preferences would have been redistributed and as such Andy Mac would be incorrect.

However, what often happens is that as the first preference candidate is not entered, their votes are jus dumped, taking the 2nd and 3rd preferences with them. It is an oversigt but a very common one.

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HM Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

"calm down bitches let's face it, it doesn't make any difference does it"

So very true!

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Rectitude Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@matt bailey fan

It's that sort of ridiculous Miles Layram-esque drivel that is exactly what this Union doesn't need right now. The Students Union has to work for the student body, correct, and it CANNOT do that if it is constantly in a fight with the University.

Compromises have to be made, yes, sometimes they are hard to swallow, but that, I'm afraid, is how it works in the big wide scary grown-up world - get used to it! Tim and Ben and the rest of the Union work tirelessly to represent the Student population, and the only way for them to do that is to work with the University. Yes, compromises have to be made, but they work long and hard to ensure they're the best that can be made to ensure results can be got at all (for more information on results being gained through collaboration, why not check out last weeks UGM motion, proposed by Jason Rose, seconded by Ben Humphrys and passed by a massive 76%).

The days of massive student protest have died. Protests have to be organised both out on the streets and in the meeting rooms, that's just the way it is. Freddy Vansen and the hemp brigade just have to realise the '60s are long gone.

There was no candidate this year that would not make the compromises necessary to serve the Union's best interests, were they elected. They can say they wouldn't now, they can say they'd fight Hes Hall etc etc, but when it comes down to it, with the pressure of 12000 students breathing down their neck, I'd bet they do whatever was best for the Student population, and whatever was achievable.

This anti Tim, anti Ben stuff is ridiculous, and, frankly, embarrassing. In the last week both Tim and Ben have fought down motions of censure and been re-elected to YUSU. The Student body have already spoken. I think they've won!

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badger Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I'm just glad that clown Hutchings didn't. I'd have been more embarassed by him than I was of the pirate.

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anonymous :) Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

does anyone know what share of the vote each of the presidential candidates got??

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I do Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Round 2:

Freckleton - 404
Powell - 531
Levene - 557
Hutchings - 798
Ngwena - 995

Round 3:

Powell - 579
Levene - 623
Hutchings - 849
Ngwena - 1099

Round 4:

Levene - 715
Hutchings - 944
Ngwena - 1259

Round 5:

Hutchings - 1123
Ngwena - 1554

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Sybil Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I have been following the blog over the election period and have come to the conclusion that there are some really unpleasant people at this university.The personal comments are totally out of order.
At least 'that clown Hutchings' had the guts to put himself forward and genuinely wanted to give something back to the university. So what if you don't like his clothes? What have YOU done Badger - other than bitch?

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Chris Northwood Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@to be fair:

Let's go through that page and cut the crap:

* Presidential Zone: Nope (he states he couldn't fairly do it so set up focus groups/committees)
* Workshops: Nope "Not in my remit, so I let other people did it"
* Sport: Nope "The York Sport president did it"
* Hes East: The promises were so vague that he did complete them, so I'll give him that
* Student centre: Not much has actually happened, I spoke to Rory Shanks last year about the possibilty of student media moving to the new Langwith Student Centre, so this isn't really a Ngwena thing, so I'm going to go with another partial success.
* Entrepreneurial development: Nope "this was the job of other societies"
* The Courtyard: Nope "Done by Ents Officers"
* Restructure of the YUSU website: Well, it happened, but he broke the constitution (and continues to do so) when he did it, and the new website is a triumph of form over function
* Library: Well he claims that he did do this
* Employment promises: Well the promises were so vague it would be hard not to fulfil this.

So even by his own admission, he didn't fulfil most of his policies!

@Kermit

I'm sure that if Nouse had blocked them, then the usual suspects would be on here moaning of censorship...

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Iwaswondering? Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Regardless of how good/bad a sabb has been should they be allowed more than one year in the same or different job? I know the rules permit it but it seems a bit greedy to me. I thought it was supposed to be a one-off opportunity not a career for sitting tennants.

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Kermit the Frog Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I thought it was supposed to be a job done by the person deemed best to do it for the betterment of all students at the University. If a candidate is judged by the students to be the best at the job I honestly wouldn't care if he/she was sixty. Maybe I have a loose understanding of 'democracy' I am after all, only a frog with a loyal (if not slavish) band of followers who never question my right to rule them with a webbed fist.

@ Chris
Fair point, mind you, would the same comments if unflattering still be up there? I think not.

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Kermit the Frog Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Oops, fairplay to whoever, I take my last comment back (or at least the second part of it).

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dirk jizzler Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

its a shame that as the 'peoples choice' andy mac was thrown out of the running. yusu were simply scared he was going to show that quite simply its a popularity contest....and we all know....andy mac would have walked the election and exposed the snoots in yusu

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John Smith Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@ Chris Northwood

Are you even a York student anymore? Bugger off and stop bitching about things that don't concern you.

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fox Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Will you idiots stop going on about 'Andy Mac'? Are you still going to be turning up comments about how he should have won Welfare in several years' time? I think you might, because hockey is your life and you can't make a career of it. You're gonna be dole scum.

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Chris Northwood Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@John Smith - touched a nerve, have I?

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fox hunting Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

i think you will find its job seekers allowance in this day and age fox. if ur going to hand out banter you might want to actually get a sense of humour, obtain a personality and get laid.

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Katy Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Yeah there's some really nasty people out there. Instead of commenting anonymously maybe you should actually go do something and contribute. At least all the candidates had the courage to stand up and say something.

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fox hunting ban Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

No, you're right, 'Andy Mac' was the perfect candidate, standing up and saying things, not at all undermining the seriousness of the position, and his friends of course did not continually anonymously spam Nouse with an array of s*** for no other purpose than to waste time in between hockey sessions. No, that was allll in my imagination!

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The jizzmiester Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Did fox not make it past the fresher's trials?

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Voice of the silent majority Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Hutchings "vote for style and substance"

What sane people like 'Badger' think:
"I'm just glad that clown Hutchings didn't. I'd have been more embarassed by him than I was of the pirate."

When student reps can come in all sorts of ridiculous forms these days it's no wonder our government does not take student pressure seriously.

Hutchings wanted to compromise with the Uni by not canvassing to stop the cap rise but then 'doing a deal' to keep the fees at his arbitrary figure of PS4k. How naive! The uni had clearly got to him before the election... Let us charge students what we like and we will only charge you PS4k (if you keep quiet) we promise... yeah right!

We mustn't fight the uni but we can't be soft and woolly minded either.

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Oliver James Hutchings Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Voice of the silent majority, when it comes to stating other peoples opinions you would probably be better off staying silent. At presidential question time we were asked "If we are talking about Tuition Fees, this is an issue that is being debated very hotly, how far do you think we should lobby? Can everyone name me a figure for how far they are prepared to go with tuition fees and at what point it needs to stop?"

My answer was intially that it would be abhorrent to see tuition fees rise to anything above PS4K a figure you are willing to say is arbitrary, when actually you have no idea that I had done some prior preperation for such a figure and saw it as an upper bound that the union should aim to stay below, especially given pressure from the university to move it to around PS7K. I'm of opinion that diversity would be seriously affected were fees to move anywhere beyond PS4K (David L then cited a study that suggested such an effect was already present at PS3K), obviously though any change would be bad hence why I bother to clarify my statement at about 8:00 minutes into the YSTV video by saying that I would in fact obviously want to keep the figure down at it's current level.

http://ystv.york.ac.uk/watch/Election-Night/2010/Presidential-Debate/

This ties beautifully into the point that I wanted to make in general but didn't think worthwhile until the attacks on me got as horrendously ignorant as the ones above. It is always worth thinking about how sweeping a statement you are making when you bother to make your opinions known, for example 'I don't think Hutchings can be taken seriously because his aesthetic is too wild for Senior Management to respect' is an opinion with some evidence 'that clown Hutchings' is either an entirely different person (I, to my knowledge have never been employed as a clown) or is a statement that is just so horrifically unjustified given the evidence provided as to make it's author look like an ignorant prick, thankfully said author can afford to be that way as it is all written behind a veil of anonymity.

I very much feel that I could have been taken seriously, and I'm pretty sure Jane Grenville, Brian Cantor and Co. have an awful lot more respect for me than they do for any students who bother to post their comments anonymously on Nouse. Alas, I didn't win and you can be happy with said result, but instead of being a venomous idiot who makes statements far beyond the reach of their knowledge, you could either do your degree or try and talk to me, I'm surprisingly approachable as long as the first thing you say isn't a personal insult.

The elections are over now and 2 long stressful weeks are over for all candidates, I'm sure we're all still interested in being tackled on our plans and what we said we'd do, but I don't think any of us can understand for one minute why people have to be so unnecessarily personal with their comments.

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Not your opinion Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

An argument containing the word 'naive' is enough to spark my bullshit meter because anyone who feels the need to accuse someone of it is clearly running short on ideas.

Ollie's answer was the opposite of naive, he accepted that he would have limited power and that the fee is likely to rise, but showed concern about it rising.

What would you do? Go on hunger strike at any fee rise? (not a rhetorical question)

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happy at results Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

thank god warner medley didn't get it. has anyone seen the sanctimonious, egotistical facebook note he published to try and console his many fans.

i'm just glad that Laura Bo somehow tricked the masses into voting for her so that W-M can't subject us to a year of his supposed brand of welfare.

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George Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

It's no wonder that so few people are willing to get involved in student politics. It's always getting so personal and so malicious that people either have to waste their time bickering with anonymous cowards or just switch it all off and stop caring.

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A Charlatan Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

That's precisely why I didn't run in the end...

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Richard Simpson Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@happy at results.
I would like to say that W-M has made a massive contribution to the university over his time. His involvement with Langwith and LGBT is second-to-none, as is his time commitment and dedication to the cause.

In my personal opinion everyone was shocked by the results on Saturday night, myself included. I noticed a lot of the current Sabbs (who I won't name) standing in shock at the result.

Peter's response to the fact he didn't get in was not an egotistical attempt to wallow in his loss but to get his side of events out there. Campus media can have the tendency to put a spin on events and proceedings so (much like David Palmer in Season One of 24) he has put his on quotes out there so that his name is not tarnished unfairly.

I was there on Saturday and the air of silence after the results were announced (apart from a cheering contingent for Bo, understandably) was creepy, everyone looking at each other in shock, with P W-M doing his Welfare bit to cheer up his supporters when it should have been the other way around.

I seriously think you need to re-consider your comments before you make such blind and un-considered responses that seemed to reflect most peoples views at the Election night.

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Richard Simpson Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

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I seriously think you need to re-consider your comments before you make such blind and un-considered responses that DON'T SEEM to reflect most peoples views at the Election night.

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Another Smith Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Chris Northwood - strong opinions, shame you couldn't vote in York...

Good to see your representing in Sheffield Student Union Council though, looks like your equally successful as Tim in achieving policies...Hope Sheffield's going well.

http://www.shef.ac.uk/union/student-voice/student-representatives/speaking-out/computer-science.php

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Chris Northwood Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Another Smith: None of those things were on my election manifestos - those were simply things that people asked me to take to council (there is no equivalent of UGM at Sheffield, to get something into the Union, you have to ask a Union Councillor to bring something up at Council - those things listed on that page are the things that I was asked to bring up, not the things I promised to get done at election time).

In fact, my election manifesto was deliberately policy light, as I knew that as one vote on a 42-person council, I could not actually guarantee getting anything done. Indeed, I have actually fulfilled all my election pledges (maintaining a blog to directly communicate my activity in Council to those who I represent, and bringing up any issue asked of me by CS students).

So your comparison between me and Tim Ngwena holds very little water.

I could discuss the finer points of Sheffield's Union politics over the last year with you if you'd like, but I fear it's getting off topic and this is not the place to do it. If you would like to discuss my performance as a Union Councillor or of Sheffield's Union politics over the last year, I'd invite you to drop me an e-mail at computersciencecouncillor@sheffield.ac.uk

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