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Audience Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

HONK!

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Anonymouse Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Am I being blonde or is there no sound?

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Jason Rose Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I can't believe you weren't planning to do one. Good job I forced you into it :P

Hey guys in the middle, anyone ordering any food? I'm starving still.

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Jason Rose Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I don't think there's supposed to even be a live video yet... Not starting for a few minutes, anyway!

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Excalibur Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Is it me or does Hutchings look somewhat smarter than usual?

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Food food food Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Sorry Rosy, we already ate!

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Where is Oli Lester?

We have four cans of beer - I hope this doesn't last longer than an hour!

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Excalibur Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

QUESTION: Who is your hero and why? Points for originality.

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Big Tim Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

We need some sound YSTV!

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Miranda Fay Thomas Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

How do we send in questions, can we do it on here?

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ex-senator Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Question for the candidates:

When did you get involved in student politics, and why?

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Jason Rose Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Answer to Miranda: Yes.

Question: How dangerous is the Beast of Hes-East?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Question for David Levene:

If elected YUSU President, how will your policies help prospective and current Jewish students?

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Miranda Fay Thomas Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

They could have at least got table cloths.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Question to candidates:

Which one of you is the joke candidate? Discuss among yourselves. I know who I think it is

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Excalibur Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Oh God, Jason Rose has maneuvered himself on-screen..

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Jim Bulley Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

It's pastel coloured! Pastel coloured!!!

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Anonymouse Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

A question from my other half - If you could have PS100,000,000 but your eyes would be permanently relocated to your butt, what would you do?

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Where's Oli. We're lost without him. Who's gonna go on Chat Roulette!??!

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Nouserooni Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Why is it so quiet? I can't really hear it!

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

"my internet's not working" ok ok you don't have to say it 5 times in a row love

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

We can't here anything. Can't they speak up

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messed up feed Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

YSTV feed really messed up tonight. Can you sort it out and make people shut up whilst candidates are answering questions. thanks.

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ex-senator Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

don't the candidates agree that most students are perfectly happy for the 'politicians' to come up with ideas and drive the debate. They don't want to 'get involved' (in fact whenever they're encouraged to, they feel less inclined to).

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Can you turn the volume up please Nouse?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Are any of our questions going to be asked? I want to know if my views and comments are going to continue to be ignored

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Excalibur Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Tell Tim to speak up! and...
Where has Dave gone? and...
QUESTION: What do you make of the decision to shut down Henry James Foy's election blog on Nouse? Would you have done the same?

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Oliver Lester Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I'm here guys. Cans of strongbow at the ready!

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techie Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Please can YSTV make the image brighter. I can't see their pretty little faces.

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messed up everything Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

any chance we can have the blog without the ystv feed.. it's slowing everything down

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Who's the fitty on the laptop? Also, getting sick of my questions being blocked by the mod

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Yeah sorry, refresh to get rid of the feed

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Question for the candidates: Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

If you were to be any animal, what would it be?

And why?

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ernie, re. your deleted comment, they are alphabetically seated

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

ok thanks ali i was just wondering.

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Henry James Foy Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Dave was amusing for a few minutes at Hustings, but needs to understand that while he thinks he is funny, tonight is about making sure we vote for the right Union President.

Tom Scott won on a joke ticket, but he always respected the right of other candidates to run "serious" campaigns. Dave should take note.

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Ngwena's number 1 fan Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Tell Tim to speak up. Please.

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Question for the candidates: Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Shoot, Shag or Marry:

Charlie Rowley
Nick Scarlett
Oli Lester

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

foy leave dave alone.

question for the candidates:
who is more powerful? yusu president or henry james foy?

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Excalibur Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Tell them to stop clicking their pens, it's getting on my... goat. Why isn't Dave being asked any questions?

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Question for the candidates: Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Who would win in a fight:

Dave or HJF

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Jason Rose Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I'm enjoying Dave Hansen. He's breaking up a politics-heavy and arduous debate with some light-heartedness. It's actually a pretty good idea :)

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Sorry, no comments on personal appearance (of candidates), that's yusu rules

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

these questions are so boring and circular. ask them some fun questions please

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Question for the candidates Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Who would you much much rather lose in a fight: Dave or HJF

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Jason, much agreed, brings interest and attention from people outside the "in-crowd"

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Re: Question
Dave would blatantly win. Henry James Foy nearly got beaten up by two chav girls. Did you not read that fantastic article?

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Question for the candidates: Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Henry, James, or Foy?

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Question: Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

What are your views on the male Womens' Committee candidates? Do you think it was enough that they were banned from campaigning?

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Current Tutor Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

So you want me, in addition to my PGCE and regular college tutor duties, to be on duty and do a porters job? Tim needs to find out what college tutors actually do.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

who is this dave character? I don't like him one bit

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Serious question, for once Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

What would your first act as President be?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Question for the candidates = Nick Scarlett

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Daniel Goddard Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Charlotte please tell all the candidates to speak up.

Vision love xx

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Guru Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Planning permission does not take 3 years. The whole project, however, may do.

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Audience Member Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@ College Tutor:

Maybe that's why PGCE students SHOULDN'T be college tutors.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Why aren't any of our questions getting asked? These ones are crap

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Really? Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Goldberg, he doesn't even have a laptop..

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asdas Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Which character of The Animals of Farthing Wood would you be?

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Concerned observer Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

CHARLOTTE... STEP IN AND CHAIR IT

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Really?
Trust me. I know

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Oliver Lester Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

In Derwent the tutors meet all the students in freshers week, then meet them in smaller groups throughout the term.

It works well as a welfare system so far... although I'm sure there can be improvements. I agree, to juggle being a PGCE student or even Sabbatical officer and College tutor would be difficult...

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Concerned observer Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

NO MENTIONING OF UNION STAFF PLEASE

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Daniel Goddard Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Do all the candidates agree with Levene's policy to take pages out of Vision and Nouse in order to self promote YUSU?

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Really? Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Goldberg. Trust me, I'm next to him. Unless he has a laptop inside that Cheeseburger, he ain't posting!

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Jason Rose Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Is that food I see over around Leyland et al? >.>

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Charlie Rowley is on his second pint.... and informs me he's "open to offers tonight" - whatever that means.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Really?
Piss off, I'm next to him. What's his middle name if you really are with him? I bet you don't even know

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Daniel Goddard Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Tim what is a "communication strategy"?

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Where are our questions?!!? Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Laura, we've sent 100s of questions. They may not *all* be that serious, but we care!!!!!! - what's happened to them

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Charlie Rowley is now rubbing my inner leg.

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Question Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Which is your favourite campus media publication?

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Really Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Goldberg. Andrew.

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Alcoholics Anonymous Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

We've noticed a few of our regular AA attenders missing as of late, we think this may have something to do with YUSU elections.

Can someone please get in touch at:

www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

If Ernie Goldberg is in the audience, can you stand up? The middle of the room gang want to salute you!

Charlie Rowley says "hi".

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Really
That's not true. It's Josephine

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Onlooker Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

AMC didn't get us a student centre.. that might take two years

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Jed Bartlett Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Which politician do you most closely align yourself to and why?

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Shoot shag marry Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Shoot shag marry?

Rich Croker, Anne Marie Canning or Tom Scott?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Middle
No I'm not. Glad you are enjoying the show

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Where's Wally Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Where has the blogger gone?

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Matt Bailey Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

The YSTV stream keeps clicking on the sound and breaking up.

Kudos to Roberto for saying Academic is an important role :)

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3 Sab is riddiculous Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

The 3 sab question is riddiculous. They're all needed in YUSU. GET OVER IT!!!

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Shoot, Shag or Marry:

Jim Bulley
Jim Bulley
Jim Bulley

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Jason Rose Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

The internet here is atrocious. The blogging and the reading-blogging is running slowly so the video connection has got to be suffering too?

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Foy just went to the toilet - number 1 or number 2?

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Jim Bulley Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Shoot, Shag or Marry; Tom Flynn, Angelina Jolie, Chery Cole.

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I'm sitting next to a celebrity! Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

That bird who was on coach trip for two episodes and got voted off straight away is sitting next to me.

Booooya!

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Foy has confirmed it was a number 1.

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I'm sitting next to a celebrity! Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

She doesn't cry as much as I thought she would....

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@I'm sitting

Do you mean Laura Horton? She's so sexy

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I'm also sitting next to a celebrity Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

That bloke off of that cartoon with the mysterons and SIG is sitting next to me!

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ex-senator Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Well said by Ollie!

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I'm also sitting next to a celebrity Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

he does

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Jason Rose Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

<3 Efes

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Uni Challenge Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Didn't Ms Horton lead our successful University Challenge team?

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Unhappy constipated Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Who'se just left a massive whopper in the boys toilet? It absolutely stinks and I've had to hold it in! NOT HAPPY!

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I want a swimming pool in the 24 hour pharmacy on campus!

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I'm also sitting next to a celebrity Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

he's left. Time to save the world from evil or something like that

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Unhappy
I reckon it was Foy

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@ Unhappy constipated

FOY!

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APD Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Levene & Ngwena definitely coming across as the heavyweights.

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target man Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

does that ngwena lad ever shut up and let others speak?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Miss Horton is the sexy girl who led our unsuccessful university challenge team.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Who else is sick of Nick Scarlett?

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ex-senator Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ehm,

How many of the candidates are aware of the MASSIVE Governance Review that happened two years ago, and which looked extensively at all the issues of D&M Officers etc. which they are all discussing?

Serious Question; please ask them!

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Chairbear Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Can we let some of the other candidates talk.

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Alex Muller Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Fraid we can't put the sound up any louder guys; turn your speakers up as high as they go!

~ YSTV

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Kelis Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Question for the candidates:

I would like to know which candidate thinks that their milkshake best brings all the boys to the yard?

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Daniel Goddard Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Levene got PWNED

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Rhianna Kinchin is on the Strongbow tonight, I see.

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Jason Rose Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Agree with ex-senator. Important question, especially for Tim

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Sabbwatch Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

How much involvement have you had with Union committees and how aware are you of the history behind recent changes within the Union? How will you take these forward?

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clive Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

does ollie hutchings value style over substance? he seems only to care about how zany he is

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Henry James Foy Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Crash and burn Powell, students aren't just piggy banks!

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Ex YUSU Sabb Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ex-Senator:

That governance review was terrible. It's probably worth ignoring it now...

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APD Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

QUESTION: Who do you think will become YUSU President NEXT year? To all candidates please.

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Question Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

How will you make sure you can win arguments with the University, and avoid them treading all over you like what happened with the porter campaign?

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Nouse Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@ Ernie Goldberg:

We liked you, now you've gone too far. Nick Scarlett is our hero. We have decided we now want to destroy you.

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Question for the candidates: Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

All this talk about integration.

But can you do it:

Integrate y=2x-4

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

foy leave powell alone he could take you any day

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APD Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I think you'll be breaking the comment record again tonight!

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SecurityGuy Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Are colleges at York just glorified halls of residence now that most aspects have been centralised?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

mod please stop censoring me

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We do Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Laura, if the candidates don't care whether Foy went for a number 1 or a number 2 then they're out of touch with the student population and shouldn't be considered a serious candidate.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

x^2 - 4x + c???

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Will levene please stop clicking his pen.....he was asked about this not more than five minutes ago, if he is unable to remember to stop clicking his pen how will he remember his campaign promises?!?!?!

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ernie, only insults are harrasment, not complements, also i don't have time to decide over some of your comments, they just get deleted.

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Not the mod Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Ernie, stop saying censurable things then

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ex-senator Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ex YUSU Sabb - it was certainly lacking in some pretty crucial ways, but might I humbly suggest it would be an appropriate place to start before suggesting sweeping reforms, if not else simply to reflect on the fact that a huge painful review has recently been undertaken, and ask yourself whether you want to subject yourself and others around you to it again.

End of run-on sentence.

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APD Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Can somebody actually confiscate their clicky pens?!?!

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Charlie Rowley Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Serious Question; who do you think is more attractive? Charlie Rowley or Chris Young?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Not the mod
OO big man are we? I hate you

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President Obama Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Who will offer change we can believe in?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Unless you're a female. In which case my number is: *

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Rachel Hesselwood just came in with a massive box of cardboard... looks like a late night of making tonight!

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John Mulba Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

What is your most embarrassing moment to date??

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@ Middle
Is the mod censoring you as well? I'm getting so annoyed

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President Bush Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

If you could illegally invade one university, which would it be and why?

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Frecks in love Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Romantic story - frecks 4 this chap http://www.clickz.com/3622868

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Ali Clark
are you the fit one from nouse? I really fancy you

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Sorry I mean muse

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ystv Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Never give a boy a clicky pen

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Middle of the room gang Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

It is not. That's because we're not posting anything offensive. Plus, you insulted Nick Scarlett so you deserve to be moderated.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@ Middle
You're not as cool as I thought you were. I'm glad you don't like me anymore

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Internet cut out for you then?

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Ali
Just read back the comments. It's spelt compliment, not complement. That's a different word. Are you single?

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Anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Well these comments are very amusing. Not.

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Ernie Goldberg is such a **** Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Ernie - if you were funny your comments would be good. You're not. So shut up. The only thing you're achieving is making everyone wish they knew who you were so they could tell you what a * you are to your face.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Anon: get a life mate haven't you got anything better to do? And sarcasm was so 1990s, it's all about deeply intro-active irony now.*

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@Mod
How does Ernie Goldberg is such a **** not get censored? This is anti-semitism at its very worst

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

"Ernie - if you were funny your comments would be good"
Isn't that like saying if your comments were good they would be good? You don't seem very clever to me. I'm glad you don't get my sense of humour. Obviously over your head

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I think we should all just chill out a bit.
What are you? All Foy enthusiasts or something?
Friends, calm down. Your enemy is my enemy, together we can crush the Foy-Shergold axis of Evil

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

PS anyone who has anything more to me, do feel free to phone me on my number, you will find it on a comment on this article. I will be happy to answer any of your questions

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George Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

On a more serious note, I think Roberto's comment on international students was outrageous. We may be bringing revenue mate but we'll certainly not be bringing you any votes.

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Err, sorry Ernie, think it's safer for me to just delete that.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

OH GOD I THOUGHT ALI CLARK WAS A FEMALE!
dude, it's spelt Ally for a boy. Like Ally McCoist. Ali is either an Islamic name in its own right or short for Alison. It is not short any variation of spelling Alistair. God's sake

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Dave Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

"Dave was amusing for a few minutes at Hustings, but needs to understand that while he thinks he is funny, tonight is about making sure we vote for the right Union President."

As far as I can remember, I only really said anything when I was asked something. I was never going to hijack the debate and I hardly think people would have stood for it if i'd tried to. I bought a pizza at the beginning which made a bit of a commotion, which I meant to apologise about as Mr Efe interrupted Tim. Then I disappeared completely for 5 minutes and hid at the back upon my return to wait for Dave to finish talking before coming back down.

'I found him amusing for a few minutes at hustings"

I was only speaking for a few minutes at hustings.

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Sticky Keys Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I think Ernie Goldberg is getting a little too excited by this debate...

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P*sshead Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Awww, has Ernie Goldberg had a wittle bit too much too drink tonight... Awww bless him

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World Domination Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

The Foy-Shergold axis of evil. First York, next the world.

There's nothing you can do.

Ernie Goldberg, first before the firing squad.

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Ernie Goldberg Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I support the Foy-Shergold axis of evil. I am under your command. I will do whatever you say.

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anon Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

I watched the debate tonight and think it's outrageous to suggest that Dave Hansen in any way undermined the other candidates. If anything, I think he paid them a lot of respect and could easily have talked over them, interfered with their arguments, etcetera. If you can name one occasion on which he was anything other than gentlemanly, I'm all ears.

Henry Foy, I think it is pretty cheap (and immature) to resort to calling any candidate a 'plonker', particularly Dave, who judging by his hustings performance (and tonight) seems like a genuine, likeable chap. He also provided some much-needed light-relief. Your candidate certainly seemed to approve.

Yours,

An impartial observer.

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Dave Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

HENRY JAMES FOYLED

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anonymous :) Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

i agree with those comments about dave. not only was his hustings performance comedy gold, but i think it was supposed to raise an important point about student politics - that people take it too seriously.

i remember he was doing something at derwent's got talent and the uni's got talent ages back, he was comedy genius then too! he should do stand up or something, get his own show...

besides, if someone calls someone else a 'plonker' isn't that libellous and should be moderated? or do ex-editors not count in the legal bit?

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Moderator Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

No, it is very clearly personal opinion, not trying to state as a fact.

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anonymous :) Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

seems to me that he's trying to say that him being a plonker is a fact... what with the serious nature of his previous statement and that he gave advice... :p not defamation or slander??

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Moderator Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

anonymous, I was going by this: "fair comment (whether the statement was a view that a reasonable person could have held)"

Having said that, IANAL, and if you feel strongly enough about it to argue this much, I'm happy to moderate the comment.

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anonymous :) Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

so you think it's reasonable to call dave a plonker?? well now you'll have to moderate yourself! :D

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JAMES Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Why do Henry James Foy and Oliver James Hutchings feel the need to include such a boring middle name when they comment?

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Johnny YUSU Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@JAMES

Oliver puts it in because that's what will appear on the ballot paper next week when we all vote in the YUSU elections. Just a bit of harmless re-enforcement.

As for HJF, couldn't say.

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Chris Northwood Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Just watched this: first off, Tim was the person who removed the links to student media from the YUSU website as part of the site redesign. In fact, this is a direct quote from an e-mail from him.

"Its all been taken down. All content will be rewritten and I have to be honest YUM are not planned to be featured"

Secondly, regarding the swimming pool planning permission *the Uni already has it*. Indeed as this recent article from The Press shows, the deadline of 2011 is realistically being talked about, with it only being funding holding it up.

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~J Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Swimming pool planning permission was given in the early 2000s as the first building to be built as part of "second stage" Hes-East. It should, according to Hes-East planning permission, be built before Langwith. It's harsh to criticise the only candidate who wants to hold the university to their promise to York Council!

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Tim Ngwena Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

@ Chris Northwood..

...correction they weren't removed, they we moved.. (http://www.yusu.org/societies ) would be nice if you quoted the conversation I had with you after that email...

The media was moved from the front page as it didn't seem fair to other media societies and our consultation suggested they were better suited for the societies page.

It wasn't fair that we only publicized 4 media societies when there's an abundance of media outputs on campus, for example Ebor Lex, Lemon Press, Zahir, ... and more some un-official but sub groups of societies, visit this page.. http://www.yusu.org/societies/category/media

This also lead to the media societies being grouped together on the YUSU site. Admittedly, the societies page redesign is behind as collating content from societies and making it current as well as interesting has proved difficult, but i stand by my decision to remove YUM ( York University Media ) societies from the front page and instead work towards a more inclusive resolution on the front page of the societies page which attracts just over 40% of the YUSU website usage and generates well over half a million referrals to society websites.

What goes on the front of our site is governed by the needs of our students, and means placing societies where students want to see them.

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Tim Ngwena Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

ex-senator & Jason Rose

Governance review was just under 3 years go and is now becoming dated. We also have a new strategic plan which will see us working closer with affiliates and groups, our officer structure and workload will need to reflect that.

Dan Goddard

A communication strategy simply put is an assessment of how the union communicates to all of its students, and then a plan and strategy to ensure that our communications are effective and represent a unified voice. You look at the audience you communicate with, the messages you send out, the channels you use to send those messages and then evaluate how to measure the effectiveness of those messages. It's a crucial part of communicating activities of the union which is an important part of accountability.

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Another ex-senator Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

''Governance review was just under 3 years go and is now becoming dated''

Tim, the governance review took place in May/June 2008 = under 2 years ago. How exactly is it dated? Which features need to be changed in order to implement the new strat plan?

Changes to officer responsibilities, staffing structure, etc are not governance issues.

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Chris Northwood Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Tim: I was just making notes as I watched the debate this morning and it was the comment you made in response to someone else's comment about stronger links between the YUSU and student media websites that made me want to point out the hypocrisy of how what you were saying (that you were wanting to build stronger links between the YUSU and YUM websites) wasn't matching what you were doing (moving the independent media to subpages of the site).

Indeed, I suspect you go back and check what you just said, as the link to the "Nouse" website doesn't actually work.

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Chris Northwood Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Okay, and whilst I'm on a rant about the YUSU website, why the hell does it still not contain features which the website is required to have *by constitution* (specifically section 11.5 of the schedules)... Your idea Tim seem short-sighted and more focussed about "consultation" and "strategic" plans rather than action - let's not forget it's only been 5 years(?) since YUSU's "Year of Reform" and even less since the most recent governance review (as pointed out earlier). The main thing that concerns me is that for a truly effective 2 year term you'd do consultation in your first year and implementation in your second year, so why you're running for a year of consultation on your second year confuses me...

Of course, my opinion is completely unimportant as I can't vote and should have left the York ecosystem by now, but before anyone jumps on me and calls me a sad act for not letting go - I already know I am.

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George Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

If I may add to Chris' rant, why on earth does the main menu only contain symbols? Thanks to that giant usability fail, to find something users should either try to interpret each menu item or just scroll over all of them. Quite inefficient.

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Back in the day... Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

http://web.archive.org/web/20051025055729/http://www.yusu.org/

This is the website as it was in Chris' 1st year. See those 4 media links on the left Tim? And the fact that they go to the actual websites rather than sub-page redirects.

I miss the old YUSU website :( . The new one may be slightly better coded and look more flashy, but the usability has totally gone!

Compare this to the YUM websites and you'll see that they've really embraced Web 2.0 without losing (and infact probably improving) their usability.

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A Coder Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

This. The YUSU web dev seems to know how to add stuff to the website, but they also need to learn how to remove stuff from it.

The major offenders: the icons (see george's comment), the advert on the right (center the page on the screen afterward), the obnoxious slider.

Increasing font sizes, bigger difference on heading font size, and more padding wouldn't hurt either though...

(I don't mean to be harsh, those few points will take a day of work and improve the site no end)

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Steve Peate Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

Sorry Foy but is there ever really a "right" presidential candidate? You seem to forget the president has a pathetic amount of power over anything but the colour of the YUSU office walls. All of the presidents I have seen have been as useful as a snooze button on a smoke alarm. At least the pirate provided us some amusement in all the inanity that is YUSU.

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~J Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

AMC did a lot in her year (before Tom Scott) but in reality the President isn't any more powerful than any other member of the Union. Any student can submit a UGM, campaign for it and make the decisions (and overrule the President) so it's just democracy in action. How powerful is the Prime Minister? Depends what you rank it against...


In response to the debate above; I do agree that the icons aren't exactly "accessible" since even I click on the wrong logo from time to time and I know exactly what they all represent... It's more up-to-date than the old ones (similarly to the new URY website) but there are things that aren't quite as good.

And in response to Tim; the Governance Review isn't outdated. However the Governance Review was more geared towards the role of the Sabbs and sections of YUSU as they were and many of the recommendations have taken effect (see YUSU Studio and Academic/Welfare split). YUSU is better now than it was before and still needs to have long-term strategies put into place. My problem wasn't with the strategic planning (which is important) but saying that nothing similar has happened for a long time when the governance review finished as Tom Scott came in. I look forward to seeing how next year's President, whoever it may be, responds to the strategic plan and communication strategy. Each President has a different vision and each Sabb team sees different holes. Matthew Freckleton would see a greater turn towards ease-of-access on the YUSU website but would have less of a focus on other areas, for example.

But it's good to have people making points publicly - this is why I have suggested for 24 months to have a forum/comment section on the YUSU website. It facilitates debate with experienced people outside of YUSU and less experienced people that are interested! :)

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Ali Clark Posted on Wednesday 21 Aug 2019

60 second manifestos are now on the elections site, courtesy of YSTV.

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